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more about the on-line tools

online-tools = no. this is fucking D&D. you sit around a table with your friends and roll dice. there are dozens of games (some quite good) that you can play online.

simplifying the classes = no. breaking down the classes to "DPS", "TANK", "Crowd Control", "Healer" is just plain insulting. Yes, World of Warcraft does that, but thats so even the most simple-minded douche can play (and pay for) it. Some us require some fucking depth to our ROLE-PLAYING and story-telling!

stream-lining rules = Maybe. Yeah, Grapple, Bull Rush and several other rules HAVE stopped my adventures for a few minutes of page-turning frenzy. But, too much over-simplification weakens the versatility and the verisimilitude.

they need to fucking understand that D&D is not a miniature wargame. I'd play Warhammer if all i wanted my character to be is a 2 inch tall representation of a list of stats.


I was ECSTATIC about 3.0... i WAS. it was genius! simple, powerful, versatile... everything a RPG should be. Now, they're gonna gimp the damn game with "on-line resources" and "virtual boards".

I swear, if they change the basic d20 mechanic, i'm gonna drive to Washington state and Delayed Blast Fireball some fuckers. They'll have to rename themselves Wizard of the Toast.

i LIKE the concept of a digital character creator... but, dammit, it had better be robust.

I give them a hand on the online connectivity tools. I remember an awkward time of about 2 years when the only D&D i could get was from yahoo groups, and all it was was text-based conference chat windows with small 'net-presentation-type graphs and grids and built-in dice rollers.

Yeah, D&D was made for tabletop, but not everybody is lucky enough to have local friends who are geeky enough to run campaigns with. Just think, now you could run a weekly campaign with Russ, Cin, and Sandy without them needing to burn gas to stare at your ugly mug for 4 hours I'm still leery about the whole 'Simplifying your class's roll' thing, but we'll just have to see where it goes.

Will this be a natural progression from 3.5e or some hellish real-world application of DDO...
We'll know next year *shrug*

If they did it like CoH i'd be ok with it. Each archetype had a roll that they would be best at but good talent picks and power sets could bridge gaps. I've seen

an ice blaster lock down a boss
a regen scrapper tank an AV
a fire tank kill about 120 ninjas at once (no, seriously)
a radiation defender AoE farming 40 mobs at once
and a gravity controller 3-shot a mob that was a level higher than him.

If they say 'your class's roll is THIS' but they still leave in the abilities for you to go outside your roll, I'm ok with it. They did say that non-magical classes will be having about as many in-combat options as classes like mage and cleric

Sounds like an underground group of semi-professional rule-writers might still make cool stuff for 3.5... we can hope.. 

so...



Anyone up for some Star*Drive? 

TwoHands wrote:

Speaking of D&D, Moloth, Milton wants to give you a whole shitload of books hes collected.

O_o

from.. the Basement of All that is Awesome?

I.. i don't know what to say!

i mean, yes, that would be awesome!

Paladin: Devout warriors and champions of their deities, paladins are divinely inspired knights who fight at the front of a battle. If you want to challenge foes to single combat, fight for a cause, and smite your foes with divine might, then paladin is the class for you.

*cringe*

Edit #1:  Gone is the complete spectrum of alignments.  Now there's only..

✦ Good: Freedom and kindness.
✦ Lawful Good: Civilization and order.
✦ Evil: Tyranny and hatred.
✦ Chaotic Evil: Entropy and destruction.
✦ Unaligned: Having no alignment; not taking a stand.

Edit #2: No more fun and interesting combat!  It looks like you're almost guaranteed to hit.  Even with monster AC going up across the board.

To make an attack, roll 1d20 and add the following:
✦ One-half your level
✦ The relevant ability score modifier
✦ All other modifiers (see page 279)
The total is your attack result.

Edit #3:  WHAT THE FUCK.

None of the races have any disadvantages.  Dragonborn get +2 Strength and +2 Charisma...  Humans get +2 on any one ability score..  Elves get +2 dex and +2 wisdom, half-elves get +2 con, +2 cha, Dwarves get +2 con and +2 wisdom..

Edit #4: At Will powers.

Every class has Powers that they can use at will, per encounter, daily, or under other circumstances.  You can 'retrain' and pick different ones as you progress.  Here's some examples!

Cleric: Healing Word
You whisper a brief prayer as divine light washes over your target, helping to mend its wounds.

Encounter (Special) ✦ Divine, Healing

Special: You can use this power twice per encounter, but only once per round. At 16th level, you can use this power three times per encounter.

Minor Action  Close burst 5
    (10 at 11th level, 15 at 21st level)

Target: You or one ally

Effect: The target can spend a healing surge and regain an additional 1d6 hit points.
Increase the amount of additional hit points regained to 2d6 at 6th level, 3d6 at 11th level, 4d6 at 6th level, 5d6 at 21st level, and 6d6 at 26th level.


Note: This is in addition to Encounter-prayers, At-Will prayers, and the cleric's normal prayer (spell) list.

Edit #5:  B33J should appreciate this.  Cleave is an at-will power...which they're dubbing Exploits, for the Fighter class.

Last edited by spooki (6/7/08 10:50 am)

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D&D 4.0

i officially hate 4.0.